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	<title>Comments on: At the Quarter Post:  The Pistons Season so Far</title>
	<link>http://www.humanvictorycigar.com/2006/12/13/at-the-quarter-post-the-pistons-season-so-far/</link>
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		<title>by: the stat sprocket</title>
		<link>http://www.humanvictorycigar.com/2006/12/13/at-the-quarter-post-the-pistons-season-so-far/#comment-54</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I didn’t bring up Arroyo as a potential source of a drop is assists mostly because it seemed silly to consider him.  On an 82 game basis Arroyo contributed 1.9 of the Pistons season ending average of 24.0 assists per game.  I suppose you might argue that 1.9 divided by the current gap of around 4 assists per game means that the trade of Arroyo accounts for about 48% of the decline, but you would be wrong to do so.

With Arroyo last year the Pistons averaged 24.2 assists per game and without him 23.7 – a drop of about half an assist per game.  Given that with Arroyo the team was still benefiting from the lights out shooting they displayed at the beginning of the season, the drop in FG%, from 0.459 to 0.448 (pre and post Arroyo) is amply enough to account for the half an assist drop per game.

Simply, the rest of the team made up for the assists that Arroyo took with him to Orlando long before the season was over – a drop of 0.5 assists per game is all that you can possibly attribute to Arroyo last year.  If you want to understand why the team is lower this year, you need to look for differences across the players that are here.  If you look at the numbers, Nazr and Murray’s incoming assists only match what we lost with Ben heading to Chicago.  

I don’t see any reason to change anything I said.  The Pistons started the season shooting a bit worse than last year and changed how they play to incorporate a lot more isolation and a lot more drives to the basket.  Add that to the change in personnel versus what they finished last season with and that’s more than enough to account for the gap.  Arroyo doesn’t figure in.

Finally, I didn’t say this team was better, but I could be persuaded to think that way depending on what happens next.  I don’t think we give nearly enough credit to the disruption caused by switching out Ben for Nazr / Murray.  As we all know, the old starting five had by and large only played together the past couple of seasons.  To think that you can change all those old habits in a mere twenty games seems way wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t bring up Arroyo as a potential source of a drop is assists mostly because it seemed silly to consider him.  On an 82 game basis Arroyo contributed 1.9 of the Pistons season ending average of 24.0 assists per game.  I suppose you might argue that 1.9 divided by the current gap of around 4 assists per game means that the trade of Arroyo accounts for about 48% of the decline, but you would be wrong to do so.</p>
<p>With Arroyo last year the Pistons averaged 24.2 assists per game and without him 23.7 – a drop of about half an assist per game.  Given that with Arroyo the team was still benefiting from the lights out shooting they displayed at the beginning of the season, the drop in FG%, from 0.459 to 0.448 (pre and post Arroyo) is amply enough to account for the half an assist drop per game.</p>
<p>Simply, the rest of the team made up for the assists that Arroyo took with him to Orlando long before the season was over – a drop of 0.5 assists per game is all that you can possibly attribute to Arroyo last year.  If you want to understand why the team is lower this year, you need to look for differences across the players that are here.  If you look at the numbers, Nazr and Murray’s incoming assists only match what we lost with Ben heading to Chicago.  </p>
<p>I don’t see any reason to change anything I said.  The Pistons started the season shooting a bit worse than last year and changed how they play to incorporate a lot more isolation and a lot more drives to the basket.  Add that to the change in personnel versus what they finished last season with and that’s more than enough to account for the gap.  Arroyo doesn’t figure in.</p>
<p>Finally, I didn’t say this team was better, but I could be persuaded to think that way depending on what happens next.  I don’t think we give nearly enough credit to the disruption caused by switching out Ben for Nazr / Murray.  As we all know, the old starting five had by and large only played together the past couple of seasons.  To think that you can change all those old habits in a mere twenty games seems way wrong.
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		<title>by: lee357</title>
		<link>http://www.humanvictorycigar.com/2006/12/13/at-the-quarter-post-the-pistons-season-so-far/#comment-52</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Considering we lost Arroyo, and Arroyo dished a ton of assists for us last year, I would think you would mention it as a reason why we dropped the 4 assists per game.

Concerning the next 20 games, the emergence of Blalock and Maxiell into the rotation will have a great impact.

Concerning the question of whether the team is better: No way we are better. Our starting lineup has a win % of a very ordinary unit. Nothing special. Go look at the win % of our starters last year. Mohammed, yes, dropped us that much. There goes all your point differential change right there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering we lost Arroyo, and Arroyo dished a ton of assists for us last year, I would think you would mention it as a reason why we dropped the 4 assists per game.</p>
<p>Concerning the next 20 games, the emergence of Blalock and Maxiell into the rotation will have a great impact.</p>
<p>Concerning the question of whether the team is better: No way we are better. Our starting lineup has a win % of a very ordinary unit. Nothing special. Go look at the win % of our starters last year. Mohammed, yes, dropped us that much. There goes all your point differential change right there.
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		<title>by: Dlev59</title>
		<link>http://www.humanvictorycigar.com/2006/12/13/at-the-quarter-post-the-pistons-season-so-far/#comment-46</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice article. The one stat that jumps out at me and that`s very obvious when you see the Pistons play are the assists are down from last year. At times there is too much one on one and not enough ball movement. This team is at it`s best when the ball is spread around, quickly!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. The one stat that jumps out at me and that`s very obvious when you see the Pistons play are the assists are down from last year. At times there is too much one on one and not enough ball movement. This team is at it`s best when the ball is spread around, quickly!!
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		<title>by: aurorakmw</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great article Stat Sprocket. Easy for me to understand and my eyes usually glaze over at stats. The Pistons seem to be pretty well on track given the changes that have transpired, except for overplaying the starters again. Even though I don't care for our new defense aesthetically, it seems to be working well when the players execute it. Worrisome about the drop in assists 
and hustle stats too, but all in all a more positive reading than I would have expected from the numbers. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Stat Sprocket. Easy for me to understand and my eyes usually glaze over at stats. The Pistons seem to be pretty well on track given the changes that have transpired, except for overplaying the starters again. Even though I don&#8217;t care for our new defense aesthetically, it seems to be working well when the players execute it. Worrisome about the drop in assists<br />
and hustle stats too, but all in all a more positive reading than I would have expected from the numbers. Thanks!
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